garageCube

[ilan]

MadMapper does not currently support softedge. It is questionable whether this is needed because by in large mapping is about lots of little maps (textures) that allow one to by pass worrying about such things. The priority will likely be to implement it properly in Modul8 first due to demand and the Advanced Multi-Projection system where this features is essential.

[B3Bear]

My weekend...

Edge Blending with Modul8 Demystified:
http://youtu.be/6Wt1GmOopVo

You know, it would have been nice if at some point in the last year and a half (not sure where I got 3 years?) one of you video genius' had come off your throne for 10 minutes to just write out the steps and post a suitable mask file instead of making some of the lame comments you did. GarageTeam, no it's not an obligation but you went as far as to post the video on your blog so I don't see the big deal about taking the extra step of actually explaining it. Helping people do cool stuff with your software, with the bonus that they don't have to look at other solutions, is never a bad idea. It's not an admission of guilt and can't be used against you in the court of law.

Funny, now that I spent about 10 hours sorting through threads and learning about masking through a seemingly endless amount of trial and error, it does seem now like a rather easy and obvious procedure. Funny how that works. And so what I if might have improved the method a little with my dial-a-blend® technology. I could have lived with deepvisual's way and got my weekend back.

I hope you can find a little humor in the sheer absurdity of this entire thread. And in the future try to remember that modul8 is not just for video guru's. It also for (starving) artists and even musicians like myself. The $420 they spent may be a lot to them and they shouldn't be judged/dismissed for not being techies.

God I hate message boards!

There's no pleasing some people
I should never have made that soft edge tut..

i really can't believe this reply!
that video shows you exactly what to do and you complain...about what? I wonder

Some people... It is true technology makes life easier, but it does not have to substitute your ability to create, investigate, experiment... M8 is for the creative, not the ready-made.

Can you please stop being a 14 years old girl?
We understood… this video is not a tutorial… yep… soft edge is still not here after 3 years… sorry about that… it's still on its way. In the mean time, for your PRO projects you can still use what we all pros use: Watchout…

Let me be very, very clear.

Modul8 does not currently support soft edge. If someone finds a solution for soft edge by using Modul8 they are completely free to provide a proper step by step tutorial on how to do it, or not.

From our point of view, because Modul8 does not currently support soft edge, there is no reason we should provide a solution, in this case a work around, that does not meet our standards.

[deepvisual]

ok

I'll have a few things to say here.
Us video gods, dont actually sit up here on the top of Mount Olympus doing nothing from one year to the next. Making decent videos takes time and planning. My original 'tutorial' was never intended to be suitable for beginners and I'm not going to spend a whole day remaking it for them.

As you've found out yourself, its not that easy after all and there are issues with flat colours, black levels, projector lamps and alignment that are difficult for even professionals to manage with very expensive equipment. Personally I think its very wise of garagecube to avoid providing edge blends as standard, because it will just be a total nightmare dealing with the complaints.

finally for now anyway, I'll point out that I did indeed post all the files and a project on the vidvox board, as VDMX is more suited to doing edge blends as it uses the video tap, which is absent in M8.
Your solution to the blend, is ok, but its better if you split it in half and use them on separate layers. You might also want to knock out the white in photoshop before hand and save it as a PNG+ . you'll get more control if you tweak the blend gamma.

anyway, its back to the lofty heights of Olympus for me for a while. I have to go throw a few thunderbolts at a video matrix

[vanakaru]

look at a youtube film and listen to a men that talks you a sleep?

Sorry I just could not resist. Watching your tut B3Bear I feel it is even worse on sleep account. Almost 3 min before you say anything meaningful.
But I appreciate your effort.

[B3Bear]

Sorry for the delay but I've been busy and refused to spend one second on this, though I have to admit I've been crafting my reply this whole time, which is why I just need to get this over with. Getting annoyed by message boards is a flaw of mine, which I'm working on. I'm afraid this will be my swan song, as I'll be unsubscribing from this thread and won't be aware of replies. Some of you I'm sure are happy to hear that. So here we go...

As you've found out yourself, its not that easy after all and there are issues with flat colours, black levels, projector lamps and alignment that are difficult for even professionals to manage with very expensive equipment.

That's true. Especially when they only "tutorial" you can find gives you almost no information. It would have taken you about 5 minutes extra to actually include the "how to" part in your video, or just write the steps in the description. That way you wouldn't have to make lame posts like "I wish I never made that tut...". Honestly I don't know how a demo that says what modules you used, and mentions almost nothing about how you did it is supposed to be a tutorial, but whatever. So glad that modul8 and others practically threw you a champagne reception for "another great tutorial", yet of course have no reply to mine. But it's cool I didn't do it to be thanked.

My method actually works way better then I originally thought and I've posted an addendum to my tutorial. The problem I thought I was having was just a crop issue. I can't wait to see what GC comes up with after several years, considering I spent a day on it and it works about 98% as good as it could. Apparently that last 2% is super tricky! hehe And BTW, GC you can use "Dial-A-Blend" if you want.

I'll point out that I did indeed post all the files and a project on the vidvox board, as VDMX is more suited to doing edge blends as it uses the video tap, which is absent in M8.

That' great. Wish I knew that! You might wanna take 10 seconds to put that in the description of your super helpful "tutorial". BTW I actually scanned through several of your posts on that other forum when I was searching Google for a mask file, before I made my own. I found and downloaded a QC file you posted, which you indicated you used to make your mask (contrary to what's in the videos description about "deleting the white bits", which is of course a super professional way of making a mask file ). I spent an hour or so on that before I gave up. It was really the mask module that helped me out, and nothing you posted. Sorry.

Your solution to the blend, is ok...

Thanks! Not sure how it compares to yours since I'm still not sure what your solution is. And I'm certainly no longer a beginner at edge blending, which BTW I now call bledging. I do however know that the ability to precisely position layers is definitely not the key to my solution. The Mask mod is.

...but its better if you split it in half and use them on separate layers.

Not sure what video you watched, but I did split them in half. Only the mask is on one layer. So the videos need two layers and it's a pain in the butt with syncing etc and it will be really nice when GC integrates it.

You might also want to knock out the white in photoshop before hand and save it as a PNG+ .

It's black and transparent. Don't use preview to view it or it will show as white. Sorry, you lose your God status. Though I think you sound adorable (not sleepy) and in my head you've got a fuzzy bald head I wanna rub.

Sorry I just could not resist. Watching your tut B3Bear I feel it is even worse on sleep account. Almost 3 min before you say anything meaningful.
But I appreciate your effort.

Gosh, there are so many things I want to say to you, but instead I'll just say thank you for your feedback, and I've encoded a very special message to you in my tutorial with the help of the fabulous Mr. C Lo Green. And trust me, it's heartfelt. You and this thread have, once again, reminded me that I HATE MESSAGE BOARDS and therefore I will no longer be posting unless I really need help with something. And that will save me a lot of time, so thanks for that. It seems that even if I'm posting a really good feature suggestion or a helpful tip, I spend more time defending my posts then it's worth to me. And yes, even if I boil my 10 hours worth or work into a 15 min tutorial, there's always someone who posts a frustrating comment like "it's not entertaining enough" and I then end up having to take an ambien to get to sleep. F that.

Maybe it's because I come off abrasive or "rude". For the record my first post was not a "rant", though it could be read that way. I really didn't think that vid was the tutorial GC was talking about. I should have read the whole thread and not scanned it and that's my fault. God knows it did me no good posting here. I ended up figuring it out myself, and improving it in the process, and dealt with a LOT of frustration in between. F that.

I suppose it could have something to do with the type of people who "troll" msg boards and therefore tend to be the first to reply. Perhaps.

Still not sure what exactly it was I wrote that was rude, but either way I'm not the rudest person in this thread. I didn't call anyone names like "sleepy" or "a 14 year old girl" and just posted my opinion, harsh as it may sound. Sometimes it was hard fact, actually. I'm certainly no Steve Jobs, but I hear he could come off kinda harsh. I also heard a quote of his which I boil down to basically mean "Don't let other people's stupidity get in your way". He was indeed a great man. I fear that at this moment I'm not living by that very wise philosophy since I have more productive things to be doing right now.

Again, there will be no reply from me, but if any other "asses" out there wanna defend my honor (or is it dishonor?) feel free.

Gentlemen, I bid you goodnight...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGaEXqrubO4

[wavilox]

Hi

The best Option is: Modul8 + Quartz Composer + Syphon = Edge Blending

I wrote a Quartz Composer Patch for TripleHead2Go, you can download from : http://www.wavilox.com/2011/10/modul8-e ... nding.html

Not perfect but it works !!!

[vanakaru]

Hi

The best Option is: Modul8 + Quartz Composer + Syphon = Edge Blending

I wrote a Quartz Composer Patch for TripleHead2Go, you can download from : http://www.wavilox.com/2011/10/modul8-e ... nding.html

Not perfect but it works !!!

Could you do a brief English documentation and provide a download link. I could not get it from your blog.

[wavilox]

Hi!

6 months ego I found a Patch in VDMX forums ( http://www.vidvox.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5863 ), and 4 months later Modul8 supports Syphon, then was easy to modify the original Patch including Syphon client.

1º-Download Syphon Plugin for Quartz Composer from Vade´s page or from http://www.box.com/shared/dc34g2lkm8yf5jj4zch1

2º-Install the plugin in MacOsHD/Library/Graphics/Quartz Composer Plug-ins

3º-Download the Patch for Quartz Composer from http://www.box.com/shared/9ongfy6slginsvyutrc8

4º-Open Modul8, launch Test Card ( for example ) and activate Syphon Output

5º-Open the Patch edgeBlend SyphonT2G.qc

Ready!!

P.D. Excuse My English

[kvint3]

Hello everybody!
Maybe this is a total beginner question, so I am sorry for that in advance but when I want to project my video on a wide canvas (using multiple projectors) what format should my video be in in order to fit the canvas perfectly? does it depend on the projection canvas format? Is it possible to play my own videos in Modul8, synchronized to music on stage?

and what do you think of this soft edge blending approach?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7mMd2Enxc

Thank you very much for your answer and sorry for my english, i am not a native speaker

kvint3

[deepvisual]

your video need to be the same shape as your screen
if you want a blend, then you need to add the size of your blend to the video
ie 2000px +10% blend = 2200px video.

sync video can be tricky.
you can send a MIDI trigger and M8 will play the video at the correct time.
but very few if any, apps will jam sync video to timecode.

[The Midi Thief]

Hello everybody!
and what do you think of this soft edge blending approach?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7mMd2Enxc

That's really nice! It's like using the spacial scanner technology from MadMapper and using it for soft edge blending. Probably very hard to do however but it would be nice to see in the future!