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[G4jima]

So i am still confused.

How is it possible to integrate a mixer and modul8 into a muti screen triplehead projection. Using a Vixid mixer, a DVi version is not yet available some say it is doubtful ever to be realeased and that communication from the company is lax.

jim

[Lupin]

with a vga TH2GO and 3 vga to video converter you can plug it into your VIXID but ... uuh i don't see the main interest to do such a thing... anywxay the VIXID ixer doesn't have DVI inputs

[G4jima]

I simply wish to integrate a mixing solution into a triple head setup I.e to widescreen multiple projectors

[sigmasix]

we all want that kind of stuff

[technomorph]

go thru my post again.

you need Multi V4 mixers then.

One per screen that you have.


technomorph

[Lando]

here is the answer.. and I got it from my friend.RootsDigitalized. http://www.myspace.com/rootsdigitalized

he uses arkaos for pc.. but this method will work fine with MODUL8.

just cant wait to try these setup.

[Sonicocr]

Good News. With the new Edirol V-8 those VGA-scalers won't be necessary.

[Lupin]

it's none sens... whay would you like to downscale the signal ...
once again a VJ product was miss concepted...
i'd prefer a VGA or DVI output ...

[sigmasix]

yep, this v8 is shit...

[mono79]

Hey guys,

did you get any further on this topic? I'm stuck with the same problem/questions and wondered, if you have any new ideas on this one?

Would be cool!
Thanks,
mono

[mowgli_uk]

You could use two independent setups consisting of 2 laptops, 2-TH2GO and 6 projectors with the projectors double stacked but displaying different signals. You could then effectively mix the two different signals directly on the screen by fading one or the other signal in md8.
A bit messy but possible

[mono79]

Hi Mowgli,

thanks for the answer.

I thought of this one too, but it's messy and also pretty expensive and not a mobile setup. So I would need a different one...

I thought of having 2 MacBookPro's, a LiveCam and a DVD Player, all hooked up to a V4. The output of the V4 hooked up with a third MacBookPro. Use the input of #3 in M8 and send it to 3 Beamers using a TripleHead2Go. But I think that the V4 isn't capable of sending widescreen resolution. So I would have to strech/crop the signal to get the 4:1 output resolution which I need for the three beamers.

I definitively need some help here

Thanks,
mono

[deepvisual]

2160 pixels is more than enough for me.
the V8 solution is fine for humans. If the audience are bird of prey then you may have to go to higher resolutions, but even then they will see HD video as a stream of still images.

3 V8s or V4s & scan converters is the way to go.
either that or win the lottery.
its a false economy because unless you have HD projectors you wont get any more pixels up on the wall anyway.
I run one image from the dualhead with the vixid and it looks fine. As the next version of M8 will have layer blends the vixid will lose its 'appeal' and there is no reason to avoid the edirol.

[spxl]

Highly speculative response (given that I don't have any of the mentioned hardware or software):

I suppose a good question is what sort of failure do you want to be able to cope with? Is the use of a V4 for stability or convenience? What is the intention of connecting a DVD player? Will the DVD content be 4:3, destined for a single beamer, or will it be 4:1 contennt squashed into a PAL signal, ready to be split over three beamers?

Anyhow, an obvious bottleneck is needing a 4:1 output for the TH2G. Where does that output come from? A Mac Pro running Modul8 (we'll assume this hardware and software, though obviously others exist). Another option might be to do everything in PAL resolution (using squashed 4:1 content), everything connected to the V4 and the output _replicated_ three times... and use three video scalers going to three beamers, each one taking a vertical slice of the image. I'm making a wild assumption that such devices exist, and have no idea, if they do, whether this would be cheap/easy/portable relative to the input-to-Mac-to-TH2G option, but it removes a dependency on OSX/Modul8 not crashing.

Let's suppose we're prepared to live with Modul8-TH2G option as the final output heading to the beamers. This might as well be used to mix the input sources. Let's call this the mix-2-go. All we need to do then is get all the sources to that machine...

The camera can be connected directly, and maybe a DVD playback is also reasonable on that machine (I don't know how stable or resource intensive that is).

Now, call me crazy, but if you can render-to-texture, you can (at least in theory) then transmit that texture via a network connection to another PC (at whatever dimensions and bit-depth, with or without alpha channel, network bandwidth allows - gigabit ethernet will probably allow plenty!) to be used as an input for another application.

My proposition is to use an output-transmit filter on the multiple "source" computers, and have the mix-2-go Modul8 instance use as many receive-input filters/sources as required, resizes and mixes these (with the camera and DVD playback) as desired. Here there is no need for a separate mixer (V4, whatever). If the V4 can be used as a MIDI controller, perhaps it can be used to direct the mixing, else some other controller could be used.

The aforementioned output-transmit and receive-input "filters" might possibly already exist (freeframe?), but might not be, or might not be published/free/cheap. Computers can certainly send and receive video via a network, as might be demonstrated by typical webcam use. In the past I have experimented with broadcasting live visuals to the web - by some program I don't recall the name of right now that allows a section of the screen to be used instead of webcam input. The "live feed" was watched in a web browser. I'm sure I was the only person watching, and the freame-rate was abysmal, but still, it worked.

-spxl

[pixelschubser]

Hello,

its quite easy, you just need a cam with dv in, so then plug in the output from the V4 to the mini dv cam, use their firewire to plugin your macbook pro, in modul8 you choose the mini dv as an cam input, so then you can put all the other stuff to the v4____

year its not a backup but you can use your v4 not bad eh? we did it often and never had problems it worked fine the whole night.

if you wanna go save then use normal video cables too to the beamer year exactly double wire one vga one video, switch the background color of the beamer to black so that if you have to switch the source - the crowd wont see the blue which will be recognised by every one as an failure.
if you have an chrash you simply have to switch the source on the beamer, if you choose the aumatic source find function the beamer will find the video source coming from your second v4 output_____

so in the worth case you have a few seconds black screens - its not that bad eh?

pixelschubser