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bug with midi mapping?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:20 am
by mannikin
Hi,

I am having the hardest time mapping keys on my Korg MicroKontrol to Modul8 V2! :(
Modul8 just doesn't recognize anything knob or slider that I select to assign to a function in Modul8. What am I doing wrong?? I figured it would be as easy as selecting a "green" area, and turning or pressing something in M8. I know the microkontrol works, since I am successfully using it in other apps (Reason, Live, etc..)
I am on Tiger 10.4.1 right now on my powerbook. Help!!

Thanks;
John

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:32 am
by VJ-A2D
The Korg microkontrol have preset in the memory by default when you buy it, for example Reason, Live..etc. That's why it's working for them.
But no preset for M8. But even if, M8 should be capable to get the info with those other presets.

You need to install the microkontrol editor librarian and edit your controllers and give them the channel and number you want etc...

You can get it here:
http://www.korg.co.uk/korg2003/download ... Editor.hqx
and the last update:
http://www.korg.co.uk/korg2003/download ... MACLIB.DMG

works fine over here... so don't worry ... you should be able to get it to work ;)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:21 pm
by mannikin
Ah, gotcha. Had no idea! Thanks for the info. Has anyone already made a M8 preset for the microKontrol? I'm not that savvy with controller numbers, etc. :)

Thanks;
J.


VJ-A2D wrote:The Korg microkontrol have preset in the memory by default when you buy it, for example Reason, Live..etc. That's why it's working for them.
But no preset for M8. But even if, M8 should be capable to get the info with those other presets.

You need to install the microkontrol editor librarian and edit your controllers and give them the channel and number you want etc...

You can get it here:
http://www.korg.co.uk/korg2003/download ... Editor.hqx
and the last update:
http://www.korg.co.uk/korg2003/download ... MACLIB.DMG

works fine over here... so don't worry ... you should be able to get it to work ;)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:12 pm
by chromafresh
[quote="mannikin"]Ah, gotcha. Had no idea! Thanks for the info. Has anyone already made a M8 preset for the microKontrol? I'm not that savvy with controller numbers, etc. :)

I suspect if its anything like most controllers there is a preset which activates all of the controls, and then you should be able to copy that and use it to assign controls to modul8. (and then adjust as needed)
for example, the BCR I have has 15 presets, and the one designed for use with Live just happened to have all of the knobs and buttons active, so I copied this and adjusted the knob types, and am using this "Abletone Live" preset with M8.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:45 pm
by mannikin
Thanks for the reply. Now, I'm trying to figure out the messages being sent by the controller and how M8 is translating them. I looked in the manual, and the controller is sending a midi channel and a CC# assigned to the button/slider/key. I noticed on M8, midi gets registered in this format ex: 1/98 or 1/150. What is this format? I wanted to know what I'm looking at when I see that format. Is the first number the midi channel, and the other is the CC#? The reason I ask is that I noticed in some of the preset scenes, some keys are sending the same controller information, and they sometimes override each other.

Appreciate you all helping this newbie out. :)

Thanks;
john


chromafresh wrote:
mannikin wrote:Ah, gotcha. Had no idea! Thanks for the info. Has anyone already made a M8 preset for the microKontrol? I'm not that savvy with controller numbers, etc. :)

I suspect if its anything like most controllers there is a preset which activates all of the controls, and then you should be able to copy that and use it to assign controls to modul8. (and then adjust as needed)
for example, the BCR I have has 15 presets, and the one designed for use with Live just happened to have all of the knobs and buttons active, so I copied this and adjusted the knob types, and am using this "Abletone Live" preset with M8.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:00 pm
by chromafresh
1/98 and 1/150 is just the number that the controller sends to M8 that identifies it. Each control in the midi controller has a number assigned to it, and thats what you're seeing. When you put M8 into edit midi map or edit key map mode, touch an item on the interface, and then twiddle or push a control on the midi controller, thats enough to link them up. Do this for all the controls you need. When you leave edit mode you should be able to operate M8 via midi now. Its really just that easy.

As long as your controller is assigned to a preset that makes all its controls active.
from a newbie
-b

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:17 pm
by mannikin
Thanks Ben. I was trying to sovle situation when two knobs send out the same number to M8 (it happened to me a few times with different presets). To resolve that, I needed to find out if the numbers I am seeing on the M8 interface directly related to the CC# being sent. I'll dig more into it. I think I got the jist of it for now. Appreciate all the responses.

John


chromafresh wrote:1/98 and 1/150 is just the number that the controller sends to M8 that identifies it. Each control in the midi controller has a number assigned to it, and thats what you're seeing. When you put M8 into edit midi map or edit key map mode, touch an item on the interface, and then twiddle or push a control on the midi controller, thats enough to link them up. Do this for all the controls you need. When you leave edit mode you should be able to operate M8 via midi now. Its really just that easy.

As long as your controller is assigned to a preset that makes all its controls active.
from a newbie
-b

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:34 am
by boris
xx/xx = midi channel/midi note

sorry I dont have a MicroKontrol to test it...
You can use the printDirectEvent module to test what exactly send your midi controller (you find it on the online library...).

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:06 pm
by mannikin
Thank you. Will have to check that out.

J.

boris wrote:xx/xx = midi channel/midi note

sorry I dont have a MicroKontrol to test it...
You can use the printDirectEvent module to test what exactly send your midi controller (you find it on the online library...).