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[Aldovg]

Hi community, I am really interested in showing multiple layers in my output preview, i mean i want to mix the "layer set" 1(this has 10 layers) with the "layer set" 2(also has 10 layers)an so on, there are 8 layer sets in Modul8. I need to know how to get together more than 10 layers in a single "layer set" or mix them to output more than 10 layers at the same time.

I been looking for that, but i didn't find anything about that.
I'll be looking forward to receive some answers about this topic. Anything be appreciated.

Thanks,

Aldo VG.
Graphic Motion Designer.
Lima-Perú.

[vanakaru]

First thought I get is - what beast of a mac you have that will be able to mix 20 layers. So are you sure your hardware can handle it?
Sorry, this is not really the answer to your question.

[mowgli_uk]

If you need more than 10 layers you should be comping some of them together in AE or export them from md8 and re-import as clips.
In any case it sounds like complete overkill to have more than 10. I could be wrong though, what are you trying to do?

[hu ka]

you should have a look at resolume http://www.resolume.com/
i have done a 3d mapping session with more than 20 smal videoslayers with this software. dont know wher the limit is.

good luck,
hu

[vanakaru]

i have done a 3d mapping session with more than 20 small video layers with this software. dont know wher the limit is.

good luck,
hu

Did you forget to add a link to the mapping session work you are talking about?

[Aldovg]

If you need more than 10 layers you should be comping some of them together in AE or export them from md8 and re-import as clips.
In any case it sounds like complete overkill to have more than 10. I could be wrong though, what are you trying to do?

Well I was trying to map each side of several cubes, the thing is that i wanted to output 14 layers and more but i couldn't do it. So, i did what you said "export the layer from md8 and re-imported as clips" but the resolution wasn't good it had a low resolution not too much it didn't like to me. That's the problem the low resolution. Maybe there is better way to export from md8 that i don't know.
In the other hand, if i try to do that mapping in AE it would be more difficult than md8 also i have the risk of low quality when i imported it in Md8.

But, Thanks for your help.

[Aldovg]

First thought I get is - what beast of a mac you have that will be able to mix 20 layers. So are you sure your hardware can handle it?
Sorry, this is not really the answer to your question.

My point here is not about the best of mac that i have because the layers that i have been trying to output were short video animations and pictures flying, the layers were not complex.
But you are right with your point of view the developers of the software may have think on that, is because the option is not there, i think so.
And another reason supporting your opinion is that many of Vjs work with a Macbook pro, it would be different if they would work with a MacPro with an excellent video graphic card, ram, etc.

Thanks for you nice point of view!

[ilan]

To create really good video mappings on objects the 'pros' either use a combination of Photoshop/Illustrator/After Effects/Cinema4D and then use Modul8 to perform the material they create in these programs. In some cases people have been using vvvv or Quartz Composer, not using Modul8 at all.

I consider the mapping tools in Modul8, such as the famous 'Perspective transform' to be accidental. When Modul8 became available along with this particular filter nobody was doing mapping projects.

For the moment there is no ultimate tool with a proper gui to do mapping. Until that tool appears then doing it properly requires some ingenuity. And considering the level of quality in mapping projects that I am seeing via vimeo and in person I don't consider current technical problems to be the core issues that are faced by artists doing this kind of art.

[hu ka]

you also could check out this free program:
http://hcgilje.wordpress.com/resources/ ... ion-tools/
it is a special program to to do 3d mapping. and can mix 16 layers.

hu

[ilan]

Looks a lot like http://www.mxwendler.net/Home.1.0.html?&L=2

But why is not more GUI oriented? Why can't I just grab a corner of a square and drag it instead of fiddling around with a numeric input? Sure, I will want a numeric input to refine the position of a point. But to start out just blindly entering numbers would make me want to to cry after placing the third layer.

[The Midi Thief]

I did an interview with Aalto from Anti VJ not so long ago where he talks about how they do their mapping projects:
http://www.vjunion.se/2010/06/an-interv ... om-antivj/

[hu ka]

cool interview !
this link is really promising:
http://www.iduun.com/blog/2010/04/28/it ... t-mapping/

hopefully the module8 team is supporting them and ship the next version with a module like this

hu

[The Midi Thief]

Yeah, that module seems to be the bomb! I'm not sure how much support they are getting but at least they're getting moral support. There really are some groundbreaking modules in the making that will change how we do things (Yes Udart, I'm looking at you too!).