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clip transparency

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:16 pm
by deepvisual
I found out the hard way last weekend that animation codec isn't the best option for transparency in M8.
the files are huge and playback can stutter.

I was wondering if it would be better to use luma/chroma key and just flatten images to a colored background.
but there seems to be no easy way to control this either.

anyone else find an easy solution???

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:31 pm
by cycloptic
i've found png sequences to work best for alpha layers, the animation codec is also plain ugly.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:03 am
by deepvisual
thanks
will give it a go

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:38 am
by Vincent-Pimousse
I don't know png sequence but i am using a modified chroma key module which charge automaticaly the color it has to become transparent when the hexa code color is in the movie title.

I hope I am speaking enough clearly... :?

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:18 am
by deepvisual
sounds good.

do you have a copy of the module I could try, or can you explain how to make it?
thanks

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:04 pm
by Vincent-Pimousse
The main difficult was to convert the unicode name related to the hexa code color. I found a way to do it, you can dowload the module HERE (with right click of the mouse and save target option). The original module is chroma key, I just add the option of decode hexacode color. I use the freeware pipette to know an hexa code color quickly. Maybe you know a better freeware to do this, thank to advert me (the pipette window disappear when you activate a M8 window instead of let it showed).

Thank to check my "Slide Show Bpm" module on my website, I need opinions to improve it. I tried with this to simplify your demonstration about mixing in club where you used sequencer module. The first difference is it cost only one layer but you can't restart a movie from the frame leaved. WARNING : you need to use the bpm global module of (vs) ; and slide show will works with bpm...

Sorry for my english, I am working on it but It is difficult writting clearly sometimes with tire... :?

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:15 am
by deepvisual
hey that really works...

thanks.
that makes things so easy.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:24 am
by Vincent-Pimousse
I think I'll code a script to identify other parameter like blur and tolerance. And maybe others from other module like the crop and the blur crop. So I'll can incrust easyly a movie on another and switch it automaticaly with the slide show module. But in first time I need time to realise movie (I ll come back to scripting later).

Could you test my slide show module ? The modification consist to match it on bpm. I think it is really good.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:57 pm
by vanakaru
Tested it just for a bit and it works very nice. In some time I may do more serious test.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:08 am
by VJnutcracker
I tested your Slide Show BPM module - great idea.

I used the BPM (global)module to set the bpm but and kept getting a "runtime error in Slide_show_bpm v0.2 - Periodical event at line 7" when i clicked on "bpm" in your module

mediaElapsedTimeUnit1 = count/(quantval*1/sharedDict['BPM_SPEED'])

The words BPM SPEED seem to be the problem

Sorry i know nothing about how to fix this.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:48 pm
by Vincent-Pimousse
You have to use the bpm global module of (vs)

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:11 pm
by VJnutcracker
ah i see, yeah that works really well thanks for that, i will use this at a gig tomorrow night.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:08 pm
by Vincent-Pimousse
During you use the slide show, you can also animate the fading parameter with bpm layer router and a longer ratio. So you can realise approximatively the same things as deepvisual Instant Club Visuals Demonstration that use more than one layer.

The module slide show bpm is not finished. It miss some options to optimize it when duplicating layer or saving project but I am focused by other things for the moment...

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:00 pm
by deepvisual
I can't get the slideshow BPM to work...

I have the global bpm modul running, but the slideshow only works on timer, not bpm.

on G4 powerbook.

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:42 pm
by Vincent-Pimousse
Vincent-Pimousse wrote:You have to use the bpm global module of (vs)

Sorry :lol: