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[jchang518]

hey guys, please help me, when i am using the modul8 with intel base mac 2.33 and trigger finger. about every 15mins the midi signal will just drop out from the programm and I have unplug the usb and plugin again to get it recognize by the modul8 again. any one please give me any suggestion how can I fix that problem? thanks!

[paddy_petes]

Hi

Had the same problem but resolved it by sending midi from the midi out through a midi to usb interface and powering the trigger finger from the mains, you can also power the trigger finger by using the the other usb if you're stuggling for power sockets.

It's an odd one but it just seems that with modul8 sending power and midi through one source is too much for the mac to cope with.

I put my solution on the general page as well an wondered whether anyone else had to set up the same way or if it is possible to go through usb alone.

Anyway since my change of set up i've had no problems whatsoever, hope this works the same for you.

Peace!!

[icarus]

Not sure about this for video but I had problems with TF on a Macbook for music. Turns out one USB port had less current than the other. USB cables also have some differences presumably due to different impedences (perhaps.) I solved my problem with a different cable and port.

On my Macbook Pro I have found that both USB ports are fine however (again this is for music only not video) but maybe the same strategy might work for you?

[Mathieu St-Arnaud]

I just bought this controller and I dont even get signal in M8.

When I restart the laptop and do a test in the Audio Midi setup, it works fine. When I start Modul8, its doesnt respond anymore. I have to restart to be able to get it to respond again in the Audio Midi setup.

Any one as an idea ?

Macbook Pro 2.16 ghz
M8 v2.54

m.

[Mathieu St-Arnaud]

Ok, tried with a UNO midi device and it works that way. It is a annoying solution, taking 2 USB ports for 1 device.

When connected thru USB only, I cant even get the trigger finger to work in the Audio Midi setup ; it is recognized but doesnt work when testing it, even when restarting.

Anyone as seen this ?

I will try it tomorow with a external power supply and see what happens.

m.

[ilan]

This is a problem with USB right now. I have been using the TF for around two years now. Recently purchased a brand new one to use before a show and we have had other complaints about this. It's not a modul8 problem as far as I can tell. I now for sure because I tested it using MidiBug

http://www.spongefork.com/midibug/

Plug the TF in and then launch midibug and you will see that the app recognizes the TF in the pop-up menu at the top. Tap on the pads and you will see NOTHING.

The current work around is that you have to use the USB port on the right side of the laptop. It's not even an issue in terms of the device needing power. If I connect the TF to the left side USB port the TF powers up. But the computer will not respond to it.

The recent system update has not solved this problem. Would love to hear other reports of course.

[Larky]

I used to get this issue with my Korg Kontrol 49, however I never get it with my Novation Remote Zero SL. I would also get sporadic crazy inputs from other Midi devices, but again not from my Novation. I can't believe Korg has got anything wrong, so maybe it is a software issue? Having said that though, they should all use the open standard for MIDI. It's odd, and annoying.

[mowgli_uk]

I'm having very similar issues with my TF, but there seems to be no logic to them, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn.t. The only way to resolve it is to disconnect and reconnect the Tf usb (a few times in occasions)

[makemassair]

Hi.

I have been experiencing this issue as well.

I have new MBP 2.4 and the left USB will power my TF but send no data. The right USB will power and send signals but only for about 10mins.

I changed cables thinking the cable might be faulty. And same problem. I have also power the TF unit itself with the correct power adapter.

Now here is where it gets weird. I have a Ecler NUO4 audio/DJ mixer which has midi capabilties. So I plug my MBP in and connect up modul8. No problems. Seems to work fine for over 15mins. (some of the rotary/endless controllers confuse modul8 but I'm sure given time I could tweak it.)

Now I plug in my TF in place of the NUO4 and remap/reconnect the midi. Works fine for 10mins again. So I try the same cable as that of the NUO4 and it seems to be fine. I tested for about half hour which no disconnect.

Looking back at the 2 previous USB cables tried they both have the same code and that on the wiring. Which is different to the cable that came from my NUO4.

So I think that maybe the USB cable was a lower grade or possibly only designed for USB1? Which is weird as I would imagine a TF would only need USB1 as it is only sending midi signals. Unless it needs the power sent aswell, but as aleady mentioned, even with a power supply to the TF. Sod all difference.

Oh, it still doesn't work in the left USB socket. Which apparently isn't an Apple thing, it's manufacturers overrating their USB devices against guidance...

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 5&tstart=0

Has anyone tried this setup thru a USB hub? I don't have one to test. But am quite annoyed really at having spent nearly £2000 on this new top of the range kit and I get one sometimes working USB port.

[mowgli_uk]

Hi.



Has anyone tried this setup thru a USB hub?

I have it connected to a USB hub and still have problems some times, but it is connected to the left hand side usb on my mbp. It works most of the time though and a plug/unplug usually fixes the problem.

[makemassair]

The left side?

Very weird. It seems that the right side is the typically better powered one. The left one partly being used to power the trackpad. I guess your Mac could be the other way round (the right USB port powering the trackpad)

This is a bit of a joke tbh thou. Is the TF the only controller having problems like this do you know? I don't want to have to worry about having to reconnect my Tf in the middle of a VJset or every 15mins.

mowgli_uk, have you experienced this with other VJ software? I have only just got my Mac so still just fiddling with modul8. I also have nothing else installed on it yet. I plan to get Ableton on it soon, but with a weekend already booked to do other stuff it ain't gonna be for a little while.

[makemassair]

Reading this thread
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... dID=756998

Which is mostly concerned with Serato.

It seems that there might a workaround with using
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12800

SideTrack is a replacement driver for the Apple MacBook, PowerBook and iBook trackpads. With SideTrack installed your standard trackpad becomes a powerful multi-button scrolling mouse.

Also the issue appears to be because the keyboard/trackpad goes to sleep after about 10seconds and then when pressed/turned back on it draws power away from the USB port and that is why the connection is lost. So I guess that having a powered USB controller should sort it out. If indeed that is the issue.

[makemassair]

Oh and

hmmm, In Windows you have the ability to set an option flag: "Don't let Windows turn off USB to save power".

So It's most likely a OSX issue (or you just haven't found the command)

I'm guessing here.

[mowgli_uk]

"mowgli_uk, have you experienced this with other VJ software"
Not yet, but as I said in my case I'm using a powered usb hub and it works fine most of the time and when it doesn't its easy to fix so its nothing to worry about really.

[makemassair]

Hmm I guess.

I'm going to do some more testing with the so far 'working' cable and see how it pans out. I may well be needing a USB hub anyway.